tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post146436628494690711..comments2023-06-13T08:29:39.914+00:00Comments on MAKING A MARK: Who Painted This #53Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-41097777127427440762013-11-28T17:42:19.625+00:002013-11-28T17:42:19.625+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589337019226530914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-68353816797284598252013-11-28T17:35:59.970+00:002013-11-28T17:35:59.970+00:00This is the right side of an oil panel (33x47 cms)...This is the right side of an oil panel (33x47 cms) entitled 'Winter'. 'Autumn' is at the left side. Painted by the Flemish painterAbel Grimmer (1570-1619),it is now housed in the Koninklijk Museum Voor Schone Kunsten,Antwerp,Belgium.<br />After researching Pieter Brueghel the Elder and Younger and lesser known Flemish artists, the words 'Antwerp', 'winter landscapes' and '16th Century Flemish painters' led me to Abel Grimmer.<br />This panel is almost exactly like Pieter Brueghel the Younger's except for spirals in the right background.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589337019226530914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-21419559471907326382013-11-27T16:50:11.437+00:002013-11-27T16:50:11.437+00:00That was so difficult Katherine. Like David I thou...That was so difficult Katherine. Like David I thought about Brueghel and spent ages looking 16th and 17th Dutch art, then I typed in little known Flemish Painters and got loads of names I'd never heard of, and Abel Grimmer came up. The style looked about right but I had to scroll through loads of images and then I found this : The right side of a double painting called Autumn/ Winter by Abel Grimmer painted 1607. It lives in the Koninklijk Museum voor Schone Kunsten ( I think that means fine art) in Antwerp Belgium. Trip Adviser says the museum is closed for refurbishment until 2017. I've spent a very pleasant afternoon tracking this down and now I must really do some work! theartistsdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02226003809268986249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-70614259219056028712013-11-24T20:21:48.758+00:002013-11-24T20:21:48.758+00:00Artist Abel Grimmer
Title Winter
Date ...Artist Abel Grimmer<br />Title Winter<br />Date 1607<br />Medium Oil on panel<br />Where it is Royal Museum of Fine Arts ,Antwerp ( though the museum is being renovated and the picture is not on their site, so may be out on loan)<br />How I found it It looked like Brueghel, but I knew it could`t be him because of your clue that you had never heard of the painter. I did a lot of fruitless Googling, kept getting the younger Breughel in a very similar image then realised I should be looking for a copy. More Googling , then I got it on Wiki with the words Winter skaters. <br />For me , the most interesting part of the challenge is about the image itself and how it has been used and reused for over 500 years. It is very typical of the period, happy peasants enjoying themselves skating on the ice,( and falling in), a grand castle nearby, plenty of bustle and activity, all the figures well observed and painted. There is not a huge amount of information readily available on Abel Grimmer, he was born in Antwerp in 1570, his father was also a painter. He was a member of Saint Luke`s guild in Antwerp and painted mainly small landscapes, often with building and figures. However , most of his work was derivative, he copied freely both from painting and from prints ( not such an terrible thing to do then, as it would be now). He had a good colour sense and interpreted the pieces he copied in an lively and individual way. He died in 1618/9.<br />As to the image....it is known to have existed in an engraving of 1570 by Hieronymus Cock , which credits Hans Bol with its design.( Bol worked in the same geographical area as both the elder and younger Brueghel so the same buildings and places appear in all three artist`s work ).Brueghel the younger is known to have painted 10-12 versions of this picture, with different titles..".Winter ", "A Winter landscape with peasants skating and playing kolf on a frozen river, a town beyond." and so on.... One of the pictures was part of a forced sale by Hitler, repatriated after the war and sold in NY in 2007, There are at least two versions by Grimmer of the picture, the one in the challenge and another in a private collection, which differs in small ways .....different mountains and slight change of position of some of the figures and trees. <br />And....to bring us up to date... there is a website in China from which you can order a hand painted,24" X 36" copy of Winter ( the Grimmer version) for $65, shipping extra....and .....you can also get a "Paint by Numbers " version!. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-50022082721096156992013-11-24T13:48:12.902+00:002013-11-24T13:48:12.902+00:00You correctly spotted the clue David. It's no...You correctly spotted the clue David. It's not Brueghel (either of them!).Making A Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509483023337008890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-14308943310392312832013-11-24T10:00:17.198+00:002013-11-24T10:00:17.198+00:00Well I'm a little confused as of now. I immedi...Well I'm a little confused as of now. I immediately thought it was a Brueghel, younger or elder, but then you say "by a painter I have not heard of before".<br /><br />I know you know Brueghel. But I google him anyway. <br />The painting comes up, almost! But not the version here. So I figure he did more than one ( still doesn't explain you have not heard of him before) or maybe another artist did their version from his... I try 17th Century art winter landscape ice skating, the same... so close...<br />still looking....David Teterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747334525619423349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-50581577025049455862013-11-24T01:55:51.393+00:002013-11-24T01:55:51.393+00:00Good one Katherine. I was thinking never heard of ...Good one Katherine. I was thinking never heard of Brueghel. Should have guess it wasn't that simple.<br /><br />Painter- Abel Grimmer<br />Title: Winter<br />Date 1607<br />Medium:Oil on Panel<br />Where: Royal Museum of Antwerp<br /><br />This base on a series of engravings by Hieronymus Cock which in turn were based on a series of drawing by Hans Bol (since lost). It is incredibly close to the painting by Pieter Brueghel the younger which is called Winter Landscape with Skaters completed in 1616 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com