tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post8754945249952400018..comments2023-06-13T08:29:39.914+00:00Comments on MAKING A MARK: Are Alkyd paints like real oil paints?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-72386935399018910922012-11-29T18:47:18.934+00:002012-11-29T18:47:18.934+00:00I just ran into your blog and I am a professional ...I just ran into your blog and I am a professional artist. you are correct that alkyds are oil paint. They are modified with the alkyd resin. for those of you who don't like the tacky qualities that you get you can use Liquin to modify normal oil paints to decrease the drying time of oils and control how fast as well. To the person who wanted water soluble alkyd paint. they do carry the alkyd modified medium which you just mix with your paint sands get the results you want. Personally I'd rather modify quality oil paints than use alkyd paints out of the tube. Yout get nice colors, better coverage and more control over everything.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323069864143644805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-12990261265683891592011-06-01T18:47:58.975+00:002011-06-01T18:47:58.975+00:00One day, maybe, I'll try working with conventi...One day, maybe, I'll try working with conventional oils, however, being rather impulsive and impatient, alkyds provide the best compromise and have done for the past 15 years. Workable, even when sticky - after a night's sleep the paint surface is usually dry to the touch, can be handled and painted over - which is very rewarding. I use acrylics and acrylic texture media for underpainting, but they cannot touch alkyds in range and flexibility.sea-blue-sky & abstractshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08913189132688639617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-1584077123081272432011-05-29T22:46:54.120+00:002011-05-29T22:46:54.120+00:00As we've discussed, I've used these plein ...As we've discussed, I've used these plein air for years now. <br /><br />They give you hours of time to push the paint around and work wet in wet before it dries - but the next day you can glaze, scumble paint over becuase it's dry and do all the things you'd wait days or weeks to be able to do with conventional oils.<br /><br />Do put the caps on carefully though so they don't dry out.<br /><br />I like conventional oils - but in the studio.<br /><br />On holiday it would be a nightmare trying to transport lots of wet oil paintings home. With alkyds you know they will be dry and the paint won't get onto your car or belongings.<br /><br />In actual fact if you close the sheets of the disposable palette on paint left over, thin areas will dry out but a lot of thicker blobs will still be useable the next day. Working plein air, it's better to start with a clean sheet though really.<br /><br />Over prepare then go with the flow sums it up perfectly. :>)<br /><br />I've never really liked oil sticks as the marks are crude unless you are working on a really large scale. Then they can be interesting if you are working loosely,vivienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820836660470146799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-33752997112933034882011-05-29T17:46:24.828+00:002011-05-29T17:46:24.828+00:00I use both W&N alkyds and artist oils in my pa...I use both W&N alkyds and artist oils in my paintings, and love them both! Tend to use the fast drying alkyds for my underpaintings and base layers and then move on to the artist oils on top when I need richer/more transparent colours not offered by the alkyd range. They suit my way of working very well :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01982886363535076008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-23504405356223053302011-05-29T08:25:20.135+00:002011-05-29T08:25:20.135+00:00You think, since you’re new to oils, you want some...You think, since you’re new to oils, you want something that dries fast; I thought I wanted a water soluble oil (as I feared the solvents) but once you get started you’ll want to try ‘normal’ oils and you’ll find out how amazing they are. Some people are really happy with their alkyds and water soluble ones, but for me, the real fun only started once I moved on to ‘normal’ oils....<br />Enjoy your trip, and....DO try out some normal oils. You’ll get hooked, like I did, and end up trying loads of brands and types.......its a great oily world out there....Sophiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10305269093118541197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-31852348164019035062011-05-29T08:23:45.574+00:002011-05-29T08:23:45.574+00:00I'm the original tactile person Julie when it ...I'm the original tactile person Julie when it comes to art - and thanks for the reminder!<br /><br />One of the reasons I love dry media is that the contact between me and the media and the support is down to the bare essentials. I actually can't use some pastels or pencils because they don't give me the type of feedback I like or the control I want. It's a bit like driving a car and the feel for the car you get from the driving pedals etc.<br /><br />I look at it a bit like this. If I don't like the alkyds then <br />* the worst thing is that I've spent some money on a mistake. That's not the end of the world.<br />* Sarah (who loves them) is going to have a very big present to take home with her from France! <br />I'll then go and buy some alternative paints while I'm there. <br /><br />For me the balance is between the speed (I'm a <i>very fast</i> sketcher - and I like the convenience of not having to find space for lots of wet paintings) and the feel (it definitely matters to me) and whether or not I can cope with brushes again.<br /><br />This is very much a tryout for me. I'm taking all my pastels with me as well and if it doesn't work out then I'll be back to playing at oils via pastels again!<br /><br />I did actually give oil sticks a serious thought for a few minutes.<br /><br />I'm happy to move onto "proper" oils later and learn about different drying times once I've got back into actually using an implement between me and the support. That's going to be major for me. I just don't use brushes at all normally.<br /><br />After all I can paint in oils using my finger on my iPad!<br /><br />It's probably worth noting that I've been enjoying painting in oils on the iPad and that's one of the reasons I'm 'going for it'.Making A Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509483023337008890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-71261265460997620212011-05-29T06:51:05.238+00:002011-05-29T06:51:05.238+00:00Hi Katherine
I won't be at all offended if you...Hi Katherine<br />I won't be at all offended if you don't post this on your blog, I just wanted to say something to YOU! I am reading with great interest and sympathy of your venture into oils. I too did some research and asked lots of questions before I ventured in. If I can say anything to help based on my learning, it is to remember how incredibly tactile this art thing is, that no matter how much research and theory, with oil in particular, the learning is only in the Doing. It'll work for you when you are Feeeeeeling it. Also, only listen with half an ear to anything you are told, for your own instincts will tell you more, once you get started. Its not, no matter what we think, a theory subject. And, finally, don't worry about trying to make oils dry more quickly - often often it is when they aren't dry that the fun is happening. Its just not like any other medium! In fact, don't worry about any of it at all. Enjoy the ride. Without thinking about the outcome. <br />And if you don't like it, hey - it doesn't matter! And if you love it, hey - that's yummy!<br /><br />In the words of a good friend of mine, Over Prepare, Then Go With The Flow! <br /><br />Warmest wishes. xJulie Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12750152940761828189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-30239732438679880422011-05-29T04:28:46.729+00:002011-05-29T04:28:46.729+00:00I will be intrigued to hear how you get on with th...I will be intrigued to hear how you get on with the alkyd paints. I read Vivien's post with interest. I have taken to using watersoluble oils because I love the ease of cleaning up with them. What I need now is an alkyd watersoluble oil paint - any paint manufacturer out there listening to my plea?Mrs Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04374791878135719472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-18427702920185517712011-05-29T03:42:10.795+00:002011-05-29T03:42:10.795+00:00your trip sounds wonderful. It's understandabl...your trip sounds wonderful. It's understandable to desire the rapid drying on a trip like this. Why not acrylics for that purpose?. Or Consider using alkyd white and regular oils - perhaps a limited palette of red,blue and yellow. Even with alkyd white the paint gets to a "tacky" unpleasant stage rapidly that causes a struggle trying to learn oils(especially outdoors). Different pigment ingredients have different drying rates and the alkyd base cancels this behavior. Except for white, several colors in oil dry as quickly as other mediums. Hair in the paint is only texture.! Cant wait to see your views of the area.Robin Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10359153477284637805noreply@blogger.com