tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post1929968721204166223..comments2023-06-13T08:29:39.914+00:00Comments on MAKING A MARK: Do frames help to sell art?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-27659973143978397992015-12-28T21:31:26.777+00:002015-12-28T21:31:26.777+00:00A subject I have pondered over a lot. The trouble ...A subject I have pondered over a lot. The trouble with the gilt to traditional frames is that they were designed to hang on Victorian or before walls with damask red wall paper and lit by candles or gas light. Now we have white walls and LEDs. Today's uncluttered walls are very unfriendly for small intimate representational pictures. The reverse is true for a large unframed abstract which sits well in a sparse environment. I sometimes wonder a little unkindly why some artists seem to frame their paintings to look good in their grannies flat!<br />The way seems to be to have a generous but not to fussy frame painted in a neutral. Nothing will really help though as when a flat white wall in an apartment or a gallery is put up against a painting the wall will always win.Rob Adamshttp://www.treeshark.co/treeblognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-49712215552832782802015-12-28T10:12:01.428+00:002015-12-28T10:12:01.428+00:00You can do the same thing as me if you have questi...You can do the same thing as me if you have questions - contact the artist and ask politely! :)Making A Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509483023337008890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-86937030091896617872015-12-27T23:34:20.026+00:002015-12-27T23:34:20.026+00:00Perhaps you could tell us where these lovely frame...Perhaps you could tell us where these lovely frames come from and what this neutral colour actually is. It would be helpful to know where R.D. gets them from!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-37532467837276296672015-12-10T12:12:48.056+00:002015-12-10T12:12:48.056+00:00I remember that painting - and it's very diffe...I remember that painting - and it's very different from what can normally be seen in the ROI exhibition. Nice to see somebody painting in a different way as well!<br /><br />£9,000 is high relative to the general price levels. People can check these out by reviewing the online e-catalogue which can be found here http://issuu.com/mallgalleries/docs/roi_2015_e-catalogue Making A Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509483023337008890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-52265472432963350812015-12-10T11:27:54.314+00:002015-12-10T11:27:54.314+00:00I've only entered the ROI for the last two yea...I've only entered the ROI for the last two years and been lucky enough to have artwork picked for those two years. I send work in via one of their approved art couriers and I frame my work very simply with a very thin contemporary painted frame that I make myself. I choose a very basic frame because of the possibility of damage during transit etc. In this type of environment the frames invariably take knocks and so I don't go overboard on framing but I think the very thin frames complement my work. I haven't sold anything yet but my abstract photorealist style is quite different to anything else on display and my prices are fairly high at around £9000. I think my potential buyers would be a tiny minority of those that visit the exhibition. But potential sales are not why I enter, it's purely to hopefully one day become a member. Paul Corfieldhttp://www.paulcorfield.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-40192713785730382172015-12-10T10:45:09.691+00:002015-12-10T10:45:09.691+00:00I don't normally allow anonymous comments (why...I don't normally allow anonymous comments <i>(why do people need to hide their name one wonders?)</i><br /><br />However this one needs a response which goes as follows:<br />1) Did you read the bit where I said this wasn't scientific? Did you understand what I meant?<br />2) I'm perfectly capable of running a Chi Square test however my experience is that artists in the main would not understand the results or the significance issues hence the exercise would be redundant<br />3) In future I'll be (a) categorising ALL the paintings; (b) including an analysis of non-sales and (c) keeping things very simple in terms of presentation and explanation. I'll also be doing that on the last day of the exhibition.<br /><br />I'm puzzled by your comment that there isn't enough data to run a reliable statistical test. The concept of "reliability" relates to the sampling frame and the number chosen to represent the population of the whole. In other words "Is the sample big enough such that the results of a sample effectively indicate the performance of the whole?"<br /><br />The population for the purposes of this post is ALL the paintings sold in this exhibition ONLY. My sample reflects the whole population (minus a couple). In other words the sample is the population. I didn't comment on the paintings that were not sold - for the simple reason that I did't count them.<br /><br />Also I'm not extrapolating my conclusion to ALL paintings ever painted by ALL artists anywhere in the world and displaying their artwork in ALL exhibitions. That would just be silly.<br /><br />Instead I'm taking the example of one exhibition and making an observation based on a simple count of all sold paintings. <br /><br />I am deliberately ignoring who painted them (factual), what the subject matter is (factual), whether they were a member or not (factual) and whether the painting was any good (opinion). Any of these reasons might relate to the reason why the painting sold. However if one hold all those others factors constant across an exhibition of 292 paintings, it's interesting to look at performance in relation to just one factor.<br /><br />Finally, I'm not making a prediction. I'm making a very simple observation asking a very simple question.<br /><br />I think most people reading it grasped the main message - which is "Have a long hard think about whether your current method of framing is suitable for your target market". <br /><br />Another way of putting it might be "Has the style of frame you have used stayed the same for 10+ years? Do you think it might be time to consider a change?" Making A Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509483023337008890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-49417413465794456332015-12-09T21:39:43.487+00:002015-12-09T21:39:43.487+00:00If your question is "does the type of frame c...If your question is "does the type of frame correlate well with sales of any sort", then you would need to include the NON sales column in your data. The data included can only hope to show if there is a correlation between sales price (column) and frame type (row) given that a sale occurred at all. That said, there isn't enough data to make a reliable statistical test anyway.<br /><br />Just for fun, assuming there were enough counts in each cell of the table (which there aren't) and using these numbers with a CHI SQUARE test for independence, the price and frame types are likely independent of each other. (p=0.23)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-79186853471357350452015-12-09T16:31:17.994+00:002015-12-09T16:31:17.994+00:00Thank you for that useful piece of information. It...Thank you for that useful piece of information. It's nice to have confirmation of what I was thinking but hadn't quite decided if it was right!theartistsdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02226003809268986249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-91055714755938112272015-12-09T11:59:18.320+00:002015-12-09T11:59:18.320+00:00The frame should compliment the art work such that...The frame should compliment the art work such that, "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17463819092843572504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-14320524043360768522015-12-09T08:58:28.490+00:002015-12-09T08:58:28.490+00:00Wow! I'm learning😄Wow! I'm learning😄adebanjihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12832505675979297771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-74897661636250121122015-12-09T07:29:05.329+00:002015-12-09T07:29:05.329+00:00Very interesting. My mum has a book on frames and ...Very interesting. My mum has a book on frames and inside the cover is written 'The frame is the pimp of the painting". Totally agree with what you've written above!shevaunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08210683459670654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-17421707881263736782015-12-08T23:05:12.515+00:002015-12-08T23:05:12.515+00:00Great article. I've been researching online an...Great article. I've been researching online and physical galleries for 6 months and the sales in each reflect your results. Buyers seem to want clean sharp lines for frames. EV Wells Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04351059488107118788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20645140.post-36550852682558013422015-12-08T22:27:30.178+00:002015-12-08T22:27:30.178+00:00Very very interesting , I think frames are so impo...Very very interesting , I think frames are so important, not only can they make a painting look wonderful on the wall but a good and well thought out frame says that the artist values their work, it's the presentation. I never understood why an artist who has taken time and effort with their work, who is expecting a fair price for their work then puts it in a shoddy badly made frame, it happens more than you would imagine.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14193935968877679533noreply@blogger.com